Comments on: TRUMP!: What Now? …Election Day (2 of 3) https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2016/05/04/trump-what-now-election-day-part-2-of-3/ "And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?" Fri, 06 May 2016 04:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: BCSWowbagger https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2016/05/04/trump-what-now-election-day-part-2-of-3/#comment-151264 Fri, 06 May 2016 04:20:00 +0000 https://www.jamesjheaney.com/?p=1413#comment-151264 In reply to JB.

I think these are all excellent points. Usually, the prudential judgment involved in voting seems like simple arithmetic (“1 million babies/year > x, where x = literally anything you can come up with”). This year, it feels more like multi-variable calculus.

I did try to give long-term consideration to the future of the party in Part 3. Suffice to say I share your pessimism.

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By: JB https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2016/05/04/trump-what-now-election-day-part-2-of-3/#comment-151256 Wed, 04 May 2016 22:39:00 +0000 https://www.jamesjheaney.com/?p=1413#comment-151256 Maybe this is gonna be the topic of Part 3, but you haven’t yet talked about parties yet, except as a sort of more-or-less reliable identifier for the various candidates. But two of the parties are powerful institutions, the collective behavior of which accounts for much of what government does. Since you’re applying moral weight to all sorts of tactical voting considerations, I don’t think you can ignore this one: a vote for a Republican candidate is not just a vote for somebody who will do a bunch of Republican-ish things. It’s also an endorsement that the GOP, as a party, should continue to have a strong influence in government.

I’m becoming less and less convinced that they should. I wasn’t sure even before Trump, and now? If the GOP (at the national level, particularly) is unwilling and unable to carry out any practical (and precious few symbolic) steps to further the abolition of abortion, then the cost of destabilizing the GOP is, frankly, negligible. We’d all like a Whig/Republican style shakeup resulting in a new party that actually does the important things: this seems unlikely, but it’s possible. With Trump as the GOP nominee, I’m pretty skeptical that voting for the GOP furthers any moral good in the long term, and in fact it probably does the opposite by buttressing a two-party system that only maintains our current abortion regime.

Do you have to weigh this against possible short term goods like maybe-Trump-won’t-appoint-his-sister-to-the-Supreme-Court? Sure. And I haven’t done the weighing yet. But even having to do the weighing in the first place is damning for the GOP.

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By: James J Heaney https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2016/05/04/trump-what-now-election-day-part-2-of-3/#comment-151253 Wed, 04 May 2016 22:06:33 +0000 https://www.jamesjheaney.com/?p=1413#comment-151253 Comments open.

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